Author Topic: Getting out of yahoo (Read 369 times)

unix · « **on:** August 26, 2018, 04:02:15 pm »

I've used yahoo mail for what seems like 15 years, maybe 18... and have been trying to get out of it for the last year, I have so much linked to my yahoo address it's almost impossible. It's not a piece of chewing gum stuck on a carpet but a piece of carpet in the middle of a huge chewing gum ball.

Going to protonmail. It's off site and needs a login/decryption password.

For text, I use Signal, of course the recipients must use it also for the encryption feature to work. Why would you send text/email in cleartext these days when so many alternatives are available.

G0ddard B0lt · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2018, 04:46:24 pm »

A few years ago I had to move off of a seven character and VERY popular Gmail name for the reason that unwashed dumbass idiots around the world (literally) would use my email address "XXXXXXX@gmail.com" for EVERY F*CKING THING ON EARTH. "I'm" signed up, for example, to multiple restaurants in London, UK, I get Avis, Hertz and Enterprise rental car confirmations from unwashed stupid bastards, I get personal email sent to someone who "DUH THINKS XXXXXXX IS ME DUH I"M A DUMB FUCK". I keep getting !@&( Redbox movie confirmations.

The gold standard for any email signup process today is "double opt in." You get sent a confirmation email when you change your email address, and you have to click a link in it to confirm. Turns out most businesses don't do that at all, they just accept the first guess at email from Joe Unwashed Bastard Public. So I get emails as a result of idiots guessing wrong.

It's worse than spam because the senders are legitimate businesses. But it makes my own email traffic disappear in the crowd. So I moved all of my signups on websites to a newly created Gmail address.

Just go through your Yahoo and identify business emails and reset your email with those businesses. As you get new emails each day, change any registered emails that are still coming to Yahoo.

It took me about a month of this, with declining activity, to catch everything worth catching and move on.

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2018, 06:56:52 pm »

I still have a Yahoo account. Don't use it barely at all but my Flickr account is tied to it. As for Gmail I have been wanting to kick it to the curb for a while.

I will even pay for email to get away from Google. Though I am not sure what the point is any longer.

Richardk · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2018, 02:16:11 pm »

Ok, if not Gmail and not Yahoo, then what? Aol? "You've got mail!" Ha-Ha

There is one thumbs up for protonmail. What else? Roll your own under your domain? Or another paid service? I cringe at using what is provided with your Internet provider, so then what else? I'm just curious if there is some consensus.

pxsant · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2018, 03:02:43 pm »

"Roll your own under your domain?" is the way to go assuming you don't have a problem paying for your domain website with email somewhere. Generally you can get something like that pretty cheap. Hey you could even buy it from the Gorn!!

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2018, 03:04:25 pm »

I already have an iCloud account from Apple and there is very low chance of not having an iPhone in the future. So there is always that option.

Apple is not really interested in harvesting your data beyond selling you more Apple products.

I also have a Mac. One of the things how Apple gets you is the seamless integration between the devices. I text people on iPhones from my Mac. I love the fact that my calendar, bookmarks and other items is the same on both the iPhone & Mac.

I am looking at other vendors as well for email.

Richardk · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2018, 08:45:23 pm »

I've setup the "roll your own" for myself and others in the past and it often got forwarded to yahoo or gmail for convenience as well. So it's your own domain but they like the yahoo interface. Sure beats using squirrel.

As for Apple, they are making buckets of money on the iPhone right now but I wonder what percentage of their income, media and services will play as sales slow down?

Also Apple's network is really neat. Have an iPhone in a third world country or just no cell towers? No problem! Your texts and I think your calls will still find their way if it can find a network (wi-fi) connection. Only works iPhone to other Apple device. Can't seamlessly do that with an Android.

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2018, 07:36:09 pm »

Quote from: Richardk on September 30, 2018, 08:45:23 pm

I've setup the "roll your own" for myself and others in the past and it often got forwarded to yahoo or gmail for convenience as well. So it's your own domain but they like the yahoo interface. Sure beats using squirrel.

As for Apple, they are making buckets of money on the iPhone right now but I wonder what percentage of their income, media and services will play as sales slow down?

Also Apple's network is really neat. Have an iPhone in a third world country or just no cell towers? No problem! Your texts and I think your calls will still find their way if it can find a network (wi-fi) connection. Only works iPhone to other Apple device. Can't seamlessly do that with an Android.

I don't want to roll anything

except my body.

iMessage which is what you are referring is very different than the SMS that the telco's push. Its literally its own thing. Its basically an instant messaging multimedia application that also happens to do SMS. People have suggested that Apple open it up to Android but you have to ask yourself why would they do that? They want you to BUY their iPhones not Androids, DUH.

If I text another Apple device, IT KNOWS that the other device is an Apple device and bypasses the telco and just uses data. If I text an Android device it switches to the telco SMS. It does a lot of other things with media that SMS is just not capable even with MMS. The limitations on text length, image size, etc.. is very different than on SMS.

On top of this all the other apps sync with each other across devices with me doing nothing - that includes the calendar, contacts, notes, reminders, email, bookmarks, photos and even music if thats what you want. That is of course if you have a Mac and iPhone.

Example - there is something called iCloud Drive which is basically like Dropbox but much more seamless. I don't barely use Dropbox any longer as the iCloud Drive is on all my devices.

There is one down side to all of this - $$$. You pay.

Richardk · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2018, 08:00:33 pm »

Yes you pay but it's all very neat and transparent to the user. When my cell provider explained all that to me, it made me wonder why did I get an Android phone? With 2 iPhones, if I needed to communicate with someone in bum-f*ck-nowhere, all I needed was access to WiFi for data. No cell towers, or additional SIM cards or anything. It just works.

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2018, 03:10:33 am »

Last year I switched to Android. I had read over and over about how Apple is closed, blah, blah. With Android you can do whatever you want, blah, blah. So I picked up a Samsung S7 Edge. Have to say that Samsung makes great hardware. The screen was amazing to look at.

What killed me was the software. Samsung like most companies modifies Android and on top of that Verizon modifies it even further.

The software was very ugly, when it imported all my data from my iPhone it hosed everything. I had to rebuild all my contacts and I never did find where it put my dam music. The battery life was very bad - there was all kinds of stuff running all the time. I had to manually go in and turn stuff off. I would have to charge it 2x a day with light usage.

Than for the icing on the cake, Verizon pushed Oreo to my phone. It totally wrecked it and made it worse. Finally I got fed up, I walked into an Apple store at lunch on a Friday. 30 minutes later I had another iPhone. They asked me if my 5 year old iPhone 4 backups were intact, I said yes. They said go home, plug in your new iPhone and leave it alone for an hour. 1 hour later all my stuff was back.

And that is why I am staying with Apple.

unix · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2018, 04:39:44 pm »

my deal break is a battery that cannot be replaced by the user in 2 nanoseconds.

They hardly make phones like that anymore.

I have experience with Samsung Note 4 and the latest-greatest LG phone (about 2 years old) that can take a removable battery is LG V20.

yeah, it's dated meaning it's cheap. Still has tons of capabilities.

The other deal breakers for me are non 16:9 screens and the stupid curved edge. I am currently running Samsung S8 Plus and positively hate it. The picture quality is stunning however, highest resolution on the market I think. Retina display to the Nth degree.

I liked iPhone 8 Plus, it's the iPhone that meets 2 out of these 3 requirements: It's 16:9 normal ratio I can process and also no stupid curved edge. Sealed battery of course so that's that.

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_8_plus-8131.php

Now with the latest-greatest iPhone they went to 18.5:9, the same ratio as Samsung and LG (V30 for example) which actually makes it look smaller!

Nothing in the world scales well to 18:9, nothing.

It' just stupid as hell IMO..

Hell, I would pick a 4:3 screen ratio if I could. Like a mini-tablet.

back to the battery situation and why it's so important, see you can carry a spare full size ZeroLemon battery and if your primary is down, just install a fresh one and you are 100% without charging.

Charging may not be an option for 1000 and 1 reasons.

The fuse in your car blows for the 12V socket and you are on a long trip somewhere in the middle of nowhere. With phone coverage but a discharged device that's at 12% and beeping that it will shut down soon.

Or you are traveling. You bring your phone, the charger then realize in Europe you see they use those funky different style outlets and you need to buy a converter, and it's 1AM when your plane landed and all the stores are closed until morning and you must make a phone call / Skype to back home where it's 5PM and your phone is at 9%.

The real reason they seal batteries so that when it goes bad, you just upgrade the phone. Consider Samsung Galaxy Note 9 which is almost the exact same thing as Note 8 and S9 is the same thing as S8. Not a version change but more like a minor 8.1 release.
iPhone battery is just like any other battery and loses capacity after 2 years.
If you could upgrade just the battery, the phone could last almost forever, which in phone hardware terms means 5 years.

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2018, 04:32:04 pm »

Quote from: unix on October 02, 2018, 04:39:44 pm

my deal break is a battery that cannot be replaced by the user in 2 nanoseconds.

They hardly make phones like that anymore.

I have experience with Samsung Note 4 and the latest-greatest LG phone (about 2 years old) that can take a removable battery is LG V20.

yeah, it's dated meaning it's cheap. Still has tons of capabilities.

The other deal breakers for me are non 16:9 screens and the stupid curved edge. I am currently running Samsung S8 Plus and positively hate it. The picture quality is stunning however, highest resolution on the market I think. Retina display to the Nth degree.

I liked iPhone 8 Plus, it's the iPhone that meets 2 out of these 3 requirements: It's 16:9 normal ratio I can process and also no stupid curved edge. Sealed battery of course so that's that.

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_8_plus-8131.php

Now with the latest-greatest iPhone they went to 18.5:9, the same ratio as Samsung and LG (V30 for example) which actually makes it look smaller!

Nothing in the world scales well to 18:9, nothing.

It' just stupid as hell IMO..

Hell, I would pick a 4:3 screen ratio if I could. Like a mini-tablet.

back to the battery situation and why it's so important, see you can carry a spare full size ZeroLemon battery and if your primary is down, just install a fresh one and you are 100% without charging.

Charging may not be an option for 1000 and 1 reasons.

The fuse in your car blows for the 12V socket and you are on a long trip somewhere in the middle of nowhere. With phone coverage but a discharged device that's at 12% and beeping that it will shut down soon.

Or you are traveling. You bring your phone, the charger then realize in Europe you see they use those funky different style outlets and you need to buy a converter, and it's 1AM when your plane landed and all the stores are closed until morning and you must make a phone call / Skype to back home where it's 5PM and your phone is at 9%.

The real reason they seal batteries so that when it goes bad, you just upgrade the phone. Consider Samsung Galaxy Note 9 which is almost the exact same thing as Note 8 and S9 is the same thing as S8. Not a version change but more like a minor 8.1 release.
iPhone battery is just like any other battery and loses capacity after 2 years.
If you could upgrade just the battery, the phone could last almost forever, which in phone hardware terms means 5 years.

I hated the curved screen on my Samsung as well. So you are not the only one. That whole "edge" functionality was absolute nonsense. Who the hell needs apps that you can flick out from the edge?

The aspect ratio thing that you are stating I totally get but it doesn't make the phone unusable.

I would like a removable battery as well. But that is fading away. You ever seen these portable batteries to recharge the phone?

https://www.imore.com/best-battery-banks-iphone

https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/351446/the-best-battery-packs-for-your-phone

Same idea as what you are talking about. It is external but its better than nothing. I was considering buying one of these myself.

G0ddard B0lt · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2018, 05:37:28 pm »

My thought on cell phone battery life starts with an anecdote:

I have a BLU brand phone, an HD 6 model I bought in early 2016. Pxsant endorses these phones and also uses them. BLU is a great value. HOWEVER, the phone is now dog-slow. And the GPS stopped working a long time ago (I have messed with many GPS resetter apps and most of them crash on this phone. Also I don't believe Android's location setting is the issue.) The battery life has degraded to the point that the phone isn't very useful anymore because it only lasts a few hours.

The point is that I CAN buy a replacement battery for this phone and extend its life (I would have to solder the new battery in but I have found clear instructions online). But there's no point to continue to use such a miserable phone that isn't even being updated anymore. It's an end of life situation.

I have a Moto G5+ that I bought last Christmas. I'm still happy with it. The battery life is almost the equal of the new phone. I leave it on the charger sparingly, only to 100% and then unplug it, in order to coddle the battery life. I figure by the time this battery is sagging, I won't like the phone anymore because its performance will be dated, and I will buy something else.

ilconsigliere is right - just buy a battery bank, keep it charged, and plug the phone into it to keep it topped off while on the road. It's more convenient than removing the phone from a case and dicking with opening the phone and swapping the battery and arranging to recharge the internal battery.

My opinion...

unix · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2018, 09:25:23 am »

There is a million power banks. the problem is the internal, sealed battery is still the bottleneck. And you have to charge the phone via it.

My next phone is LG V20. It's dated but still very capable. You can get a NIB one every day for about $200. I got a NIB Samsung Note 4 for $100. New. Works wonderfully despite being dated.
I love the 16:9 ratio of these phones, 18.5:9 pisses me off royally. Here is the reasoning behind it. They used to have physical home and other buttons and then replaced them with the virtual on screen home and other buttons. So the 6.2" 18:9 phones are not really 6.2" at all if you cut off the bottom row that's allocated for home and stuff, its really more like 5.5" to 5.7" at most. So 6.2 or 6.4" is deceptive hell.

I wonder if I can get a ipad, the smallest one and just not deal with phone calls at all. I've had a Samsung Tab S2 that's 7.9" and very neat. I think it had 4:3 ratio.

Who talks on the phone these days.
Can't I get some kind of service where it all goes into voice mail and then I get a print out of that or listen to it if necessary?

ilconsiglliere · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2018, 01:38:41 am »

Quote from: unix on October 04, 2018, 09:25:23 am

There is a million power banks. the problem is the internal, sealed battery is still the bottleneck. And you have to charge the phone via it.

My next phone is LG V20. It's dated but still very capable. You can get a NIB one every day for about $200. I got a NIB Samsung Note 4 for $100. New. Works wonderfully despite being dated.
I love the 16:9 ratio of these phones, 18.5:9 pisses me off royally. Here is the reasoning behind it. They used to have physical home and other buttons and then replaced them with the virtual on screen home and other buttons. So the 6.2" 18:9 phones are not really 6.2" at all if you cut off the bottom row that's allocated for home and stuff, its really more like 5.5" to 5.7" at most. So 6.2 or 6.4" is deceptive hell.

I wonder if I can get a ipad, the smallest one and just not deal with phone calls at all. I've had a Samsung Tab S2 that's 7.9" and very neat. I think it had 4:3 ratio.

Who talks on the phone these days.
Can't I get some kind of service where it all goes into voice mail and then I get a print out of that or listen to it if necessary?

Understood about the aspect ratio but it is what it is. They got rid of the physical buttons because it makes the phone even cheaper

to make!

One of my own pet peeves is the lack of a real on/off switch. You just have these software driven on/off buttons that combo with something else. I have learned the hard way not to bother fighting stuff like this, just let it go and move on with your life.

Who talks on the phone? ME. Every freaking day! I use it for personal calls and conference calls for work when I work at home. My Line2 app does not work through the company's firewall.

Apple has visual voicemail, I don't know if Android has it but basically I see a visual transcription of a voicemail when someone leaves one. I can either read it or listen it normally.

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