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I grew up in a GM family - Dad worked for GM and buying their cars (heavily offset by employee discounts) was basically our household religion. 

Virtually every GM car we had that we owned more than 2 years started to fall apart. I drove a Vega in college that almost liquified from rust. My Dad sold his '94 Lumina to my brother and IMMEDIATELY after he sold it (97, 98 or so) the car required hundreds of dollars of work.

I dunno, it's just a personal fantasy to own a Cadillac and I believe they do better over time than the mid grade shit that GM makes.But I don't have enough information to argue assertively that it's a good car to buy used.

I see. Interesting.

I heard the Northstar engine is problematic, but very powerful.

The #3 Roadmaster I got from the mid 90's was a hotrod, the guy I got it from did some wild things to it. Installed a hot cam, low gears and replaced so many parts it  no longer resembled the car it originally was. Seats came from a Pontiac. etc. The entire suspension was upgraded with non-stock parts.
The engine made all the power at high RPMs and he installed 3.73 low gears that constantly kept the RPMs high, generating lots of power.
It was the ultimate sleeper. He made it seriously fast. It would easily keep up with ricers or BMW M3.

In the end, rust got it.

Quote from: ilconsiglliere on August 05, 2018, 04:01:49 am

It takes a special grade of idiot to take what was the world's biggest car company and run it into the ground. Oh way, they ran Ma Bell into the ground too 

Funny you should say that.  I've been reading Out of the Crisis by W. Edwards Deming.  Deming has god-like status in Japan where they credit him with rebuilding Japanese manufacturing after WW2.   Deming's philosophy is that quality is the most important thing a company can do and writes things like "the consumer is the most important point on the production-line".  He says that quality has to built into the system and is down on things like inspecting for quality although he would say it has to be done anyway.

In the book Deming raises the alarm that American companies have got serious managerial problems that have to be corrected or they'll all start looking like the the auto companies -- i.e. the "Crisis".  Some of the problems have to do with lack of long-term planning and not involving labor in decision making. 

Deming died in 1993.  Offshore outsourcing must have been in full swing by that time and he was probably horrified by it when he went to his grave.