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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2018, 06:55:32 am »
I got windows 10 but heavily customized it to the point where I could use it. Took me months.  It definitely weird how they excluded some common features of 7
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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2018, 07:25:42 am »
Quote from: ilconsiglliere on June 25, 2018, 04:49:35 am
Frankly who cares if they dont support it any longer. Their updates suck anyway.

Because a lot of software depends on the updates - for example, to .Net and other platform stuff, or Internet Explorer. When a Microsoft OS stops being supported many new apps won't install or run properly on the older OS.

For example, Vista is perfectly usable but its IE is frozen to 2010 or so level and I wouldn't even try installing most newer software on it.
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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2018, 01:46:56 pm »
I've bought a couple of refurbished PCs and never had a problem with them.  I always buy HP.  They are more reliable than Dell PCs, IMO.  I still have my old Windows XP PC, an old HP Pavillion from 10 or so years ago.  It still works.

I would stick with Windows 10.  Windows 7 is almost at EOL and when it gets to that point companies start dropping support for it.  You can't do anything with the Windows updates unless you have the professional version of the OS.  I was really hoping MS would give you back control of the updates, but I guess not.

If you spend time customizing the PC, you can get it to be very similar to Windows 7.  There are a lot of good articles out there on how to modify it.  It does take awhile to do, but its worth it.

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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2018, 02:04:31 am »
Quote from: The Gorn on June 25, 2018, 07:25:42 am
Quote from: ilconsiglliere on June 25, 2018, 04:49:35 am
Frankly who cares if they dont support it any longer. Their updates suck anyway.

Because a lot of software depends on the updates - for example, to .Net and other platform stuff, or Internet Explorer. When a Microsoft OS stops being supported many new apps won't install or run properly on the older OS.

For example, Vista is perfectly usable but its IE is frozen to 2010 or so level and I wouldn't even try installing most newer software on it.

I agree but what special software do you need? That is the magic question. I only do basic things like watch videos, read email and surf the web so for me this is non problem for me. But for others could be a big problem - like people that are doing development.

But I have seen stuff where you need ABC version of .Net. You don't have a certain version of Win7 and the service pack otherwise the .Net won't install.
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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2018, 06:58:05 am »

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I agree but what special software do you need? That is the magic question.

For me financial applications. Quickbooks (although I dropped the payroll support years ago and I still use QB 2010.) Quicken, which forces you to use a reasonably up to date system.

For others it might be design software like Adobe products, or sound board software. Maybe specific video composer software. Or like you said, software development.

There is stuff around that forces you to be relatively current on Windows.

If you don't use any commercial software you may as well run Linux like I do. I have a Windows 7 VM under Linux that I installed specifically to support QB and Quicken. Windows 7 Pro OEM installation disks and keys are extremely cheap now. I bought mine for $30 from an Ebay seller.

However, I don't ever see getting back into Windows software development. The  platform has become too complicated.
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Re: Desktop computer - what do you think of refurbished PCs?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2018, 07:16:47 am »
Quote from: The Gorn on July 11, 2018, 06:58:05 am

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I agree but what special software do you need? That is the magic question.

For me financial applications. Quickbooks (although I dropped the payroll support years ago and I still use QB 2010.) Quicken, which forces you to use a reasonably up to date system.

For others it might be design software like Adobe products, or sound board software. Maybe specific video composer software. Or like you said, software development.

There is stuff around that forces you to be relatively current on Windows.

If you don't use any commercial software you may as well run Linux like I do. I have a Windows 7 VM under Linux that I installed specifically to support QB and Quicken. Windows 7 Pro OEM installation disks and keys are extremely cheap now. I bought mine for $30 from an Ebay seller.

However, I don't ever see getting back into Windows software development. The  platform has become too complicated.

I agree and understand. I would expect those kinds of applications to be picky about the OS version.

I barely use Windows at home - primary my Mac and Kubuntu.

I had Ubuntu till they screwed the pooch by dropping their Unity interface for Gnome. Thanks so much! Congratulations, now you just as bad as Microsoft. So I switched to Kubuntu which is the KDE interface. I hate Gnome, its the most backwards, asinine interface I have ever seen.

Frankly I don't understand what is wrong with these Linux idiots - get together and pick an interface. Standardize on it and be done with it.
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