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An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« on: June 15, 2018, 01:22:54 pm »
My brother told me this morning that the desktop support IT guys are being paid $15/hour here in the US. I could not believe it when I heard it but he said its true, several of them have quit because of it including a white S. African guy with whom he is friends. All of these guys have some kind of IT college degree.

I find it pretty amazing considering a UPS driver starts at $16/hour.

Than I heard a story from a guy whom said he was billing a client $260 per hour direct bill. He said they were getting stock options, benefits, vacation, blah, blah + they work at home. I asked him what the product, skill set and geographic location. The guy wouldnt answer me which tells me he is full of shit.

Where I am now I see all the billing rates for all the contractors and NOBODY is billing at that rate except temporary executives and people that are advisers to the CEO. I dont buy it.

Has anyone heard of anything like these two rates?
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 02:18:37 pm »
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 02:54:51 pm »
Quote from: ilconsiglliere on June 15, 2018, 01:22:54 pm
Than I heard a story from a guy whom said he was billing a client $260 per hour direct bill. He said they were getting stock options, benefits, vacation, blah, blah + they work at home. I asked him what the product, skill set and geographic location. The guy wouldnt answer me which tells me he is full of shit.

No!

If he receives even half what he's claiming, the fact that he won't say anything specific makes him an utterly commonplace, typical IT type, and that includes past colleagues who have been on this board.

"I earn a high rate but I'll never, ever share anything useful with you so you can improve your own circumstance. I have a personal religion of not helping, even if you've helped me in the past, sorry."

Let the Indians take over the industry in the US.The hell with "our" kind.
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2018, 09:32:25 am »
The only place I have heard of $15/hr are 2 situations.   There was one company - don't remember the name - that hired remote people to do telephone support to consumers and SMB's at about that rate.   The second possibility is the techs who work at Best Buy.

The normal corporate pay scale for desktop support is about 50K a year for minimal experience support people.   People who support Linux servers, VM's and network stuff are paid a lot more.

The @260/hr stuff is absolutely bogus.   Looks like the guy forgot a decimal point or something.   The only time I have seen rates like that are very high level specialists who are well known in the industry.   One I recall was the son of the founder of a well known (to remain nameless) accounting software company.

For agencies where the consultants are paid $50 to $75 an hour, the agency typically bills $85 to $120/hr to the corporation.    In many big corporations, both the pay rate to consultants and the final billing rate are dictated by the corporation.
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2018, 04:14:01 am »
Quote from: The Gorn on June 15, 2018, 02:54:51 pm
Quote from: ilconsiglliere on June 15, 2018, 01:22:54 pm
Than I heard a story from a guy whom said he was billing a client $260 per hour direct bill. He said they were getting stock options, benefits, vacation, blah, blah + they work at home. I asked him what the product, skill set and geographic location. The guy wouldnt answer me which tells me he is full of shit.

No!

If he receives even half what he's claiming, the fact that he won't say anything specific makes him an utterly commonplace, typical IT type, and that includes past colleagues who have been on this board.

"I earn a high rate but I'll never, ever share anything useful with you so you can improve your own circumstance. I have a personal religion of not helping, even if you've helped me in the past, sorry."

Let the Indians take over the industry in the US.The hell with "our" kind.

Agree with everything you wrote. F*CK these people in the face with a broken bottle. I think the guy is full of shit. No way even during the dot come era did I ever hear of rates like this.

As for the Indians taking over, they pretty much have. They have their own set of problems even amongst themselves. Its dog eat dog with them, they won't hesitate for a second to put the stones to their own kind for $$.
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2018, 04:19:05 am »
Quote from: pxsant on June 16, 2018, 09:32:25 am
The only place I have heard of $15/hr are 2 situations.   There was one company - don't remember the name - that hired remote people to do telephone support to consumers and SMB's at about that rate.   The second possibility is the techs who work at Best Buy.

The normal corporate pay scale for desktop support is about 50K a year for minimal experience support people.   People who support Linux servers, VM's and network stuff are paid a lot more.

The @260/hr stuff is absolutely bogus.   Looks like the guy forgot a decimal point or something.   The only time I have seen rates like that are very high level specialists who are well known in the industry.   One I recall was the son of the founder of a well known (to remain nameless) accounting software company.

For agencies where the consultants are paid $50 to $75 an hour, the agency typically bills $85 to $120/hr to the corporation.    In many big corporations, both the pay rate to consultants and the final billing rate are dictated by the corporation.

This rate is true and its in a fortune 500 company no less. My brother said a bunch of them have quite because of this. These are on site techs here in NJ. I could see this happening because of the h1b.

I don't know of a single specialty in IT today that bills at $260/hour. I see all the billing rates for every consultant where I am. This place is very transparent for some reason - all the consultants billing rates with names are regularly shown in meetings and what not. Even my own billing rate is right there for everyone to see. That being said I very, very rarely seen anyone billed much beyond $120/hour. The average rate its like 80-100/hour. Thats for all jobs - DBA, PM, BA and programmers.

Occasionally you will see some outlier being billed at something crazy like $500/hour and its some guy brought in to help the CEO. But its not common by any means.
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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2018, 05:06:57 am »
They may make a little more.  PayScale says that $19.28 is the median pay across the country, and usually big companies pay more:  https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Desktop_Support_Technician/Hourly_Rate


Compare this with a handyman rate , which HomeAdvisor says is $60-$65 an hour:  https://www.homeadvisor.com/cost/handyman/#charge.

We got an estimate for a small job yesterday, and the person who came out to give us the estimate said he charges $50/hour, which I thought was a good deal.  He works for a large handyman services company in the area and is moonlighting.

$60/hour for a standard 2,000 hour work year is $120K a year, which isn't too shabby.  I'd seriously consider it if I were younger.




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Re: An Example of Two Billing Rates For IT Jobs - Anyone Heard Of Anything Similar?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2018, 07:09:23 am »
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F*CK these people in the face with a broken bottle.

I'll have to remember that!  >:D
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